About this audio file: On June 22, 2009, Associate Editor Ron Dzwonkowski of the Detroit Free Press and Ken Braun, director of the Mackinac Center’s “Show Michigan the Money” project, were guests on “The Frank Beckmann Show” on WJR AM760. The two will be discussing government transparency at an Issues & Ideas forum hosted by the Center today at noon in Lansing. The interview is 8 minutes and 10 seconds.