About this audio file: On Sept. 1, 2009, Russ Harding, senior environmental analyst at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, was a guest on "The Frank Beckmann Show" on WJR AM760. Harding discussed a recent report from the Natural Resources Defense Council and a study released by the University Rey Juan Carlos in Spain that showed green jobs have a negative economic impact on industry due to increased utility costs. The interview is 7 minutes and 47 seconds.